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Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I was under the impression that the length and weight of the chain added to the holding power of the anchor. I’d like to know if that is so.?
Isn’t it just wonderful how the topic of anchor & chain keeps us pondering for years and years and never fails to fascinate. There must have been hundreds of thousands of words written on the subject yet it still finds us wanting more! Thanks John. Keep ‘em coming.
Best wishes, Nick.
This is the perfect post – for my 36 footer, I am going through the same arguments. Today planning to put big tub of water (150kg) on bow to see what the chain weight will do to the trim!
I have been considering doing all chain on my 27ft boat. After reading this I am more convinced it is a good idea. I can shorten my scope in busier anchorage’s around here with less worry.
I ‘chaperoned’ a friend’s Rival 34 for over a decade, which had something close to 300′ of 10mm galv chain, in two chunks – one in the chain locker with the notoriously delinquent navel pipe, and t’other in the port cockpit locker. “You can never have too much chain,” he would intone. The boat had a permanent list to port, and the spare length didn’t see daylight in a decade.
Nowadays, I’m fettling a similar-shaped boat, but 55% of the weight of the Rival. It came with 10mm chain. That’s now adorning a pallet, and I have >50m/160′ of Grade 8 high-test galv chain – in 6mm.
That’s less than 40% of the weight, and bulk, of the hefty stuff, and is as strong.
Sure, there’s a trade-off. On the balance of advantage, I’ll live with that.
Catenary only exists when you don’t need it. High rode force means an almost straight chain, from bow to anchor. No shock absorbing in that. Snubbers however (10m of stretchy nylon rope) do absorb shock loading on anchors.
Did you consider a mix of 2/3 chain and 1/3 rope to reduce the weight. It would probably still provide the catenary effect. Anyhow, brave on you to row all that weight back in your dinghy.
I’d love to have one of those pram dingys sawn in two with a little rig to sail in the mooring.
Having some physical strength is so important. I read so many articles about pulling your self back on board if you fall over the guard rail (with lifeline) No one seems to mention being strong and exercising. I’m 60 and 5′ 10″ 97kg and I can still do a couple of chin-ups. Of course it takes some effort, a bit like rowing does.
I bought a little Chinese 2 stroke outboard. It makes an utter din going just over rowing speed. Can’t wait to ditch it!
Another great post John. I’m 64 now, and I was wondering why I couldn’t add more muscle ! And there was me thinking it was because I don’t train . Stick with the oars. Fair winds to you.
Great! I also row, and love removing complexity.
Hi John,
Glad to see you’re still getting about…yes, exercise + rowing = totally alien concepts to many. However, I’m from teenager of the sixties when outboards were similarly considered.
It’s great exercise…why else would people buy rowing machines? You’ve got the real thing…bravo…p.s. I don’t think Arnie’s much worried!!
Tobago to Martinique… Is this the start of The Voyage II? Fair winds to you!
Love reading your posts. Hope you are keeping well
Keep going sir
Only special people enjoy adventure…..keep going !
Sounds delightful….my wife would hate it!
Have to make a slight correction. We didn’t sail on a reach from Barbados but like John hard on the wind from Grenada. Only had to tack once though and it was daylight!
And despite the form filling it was delightful – right?
Tom
Great to read your very entertaining and informative articles! Many thanks, Simon and Georgette
Very humourously written as ever, John!
Great post JP. One of my Moody 422 boats is on the hard in PYS Trinidad
Thanks, for another place to put on my bucket list.
I am going to add this place to my bucket list of places to sail to!
Amazing have fun.
Lovely read, as always x
Proper Sailor!!!!
Great job John. I have an prefer the Hydrovane as it give you a spare ruder.
I believe that sailors are the most inventive of people simply because we have to make do with what is on board. Of course it is imperative to know where everything lives if possible!
As sister to John, I sailed with our family until I married a man who had designed his own 25 footer which we built outside Paris and then sailed to the Aegean in 1972 where she has remained. We invented all sorts of unique ways and means to solve problems (for example we measured and installed the mast and rigging from a bridge over the river Marne) and this characteristic has become so embedded it has proved useful many times throughout my life.
I really enjoy reading your blogs, thank you.
Goodness me you are so resourceful…just as well .
Thank you. I enjoy all your blogs.
You are a truly amazing mariner.
That casting hasn’t moved since last time it broke, still lying in exactly the same place on the cockpit locker… Or did you reuse the old picture?
Sounds as if you coped very well John ! Well done.
Hi John, did you have engine problems or no fuel? Sympathico senior…all in a sailors strife.
Good stuff!
Thank you John. Always entertaining.
Nick..(Sandwich, Kent)
What a “lovely” experience. Brilliant bit of reading. Thanks
John
Your adventures and story are just remarkable
All the best to you on your Atlantic Crossing
Vaughan, Ipswich, Suffolk
Love reading your blog!
Thank you –
Niko
I’m beginning to think you deliberately go looking for trouble in order to get hilarious copy for your blog and books! Shame you missed out on describing the inside of a Mindelo prison cell though
Thanks for all of your stories. I can’t wait until I’m out there.
great story, always love reading them, glad it worked out in the end, stay safe with those checkin-checkouts! 🙂
I wonder how quickly a slug will dissolve in diesel? Anybody got a slug and a jam jar?
Reminds me of the time I hurried out of Chatham dockyard only to loose engine in front of incoming Medway Queen. I had forgotten to turn on the fuel delivery to the engine. Tried to put on a good show,,,,but I think I failed to entertain MQs skipper.
had a similar issue with a piece of paper rag in the fuel tank, heaven knows when it got in there but eventually it found its way to the outlet, variably blocking it but never completely. Extracted using a Pela pump and some luck.
Oh Dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just proves you are human after all …… carry on tee hee hee……
It’s on the way. Look forward to reading it.
Would enjoy another engagement with Jeremy Vine, so to speak.
Best Wishes
Liam
I’d love to buy it, but Amazon says not available for purchase…
Other people have been able to buy it. Please try again.
Hello John! When the book is so good as the last book I will forward to read it! Just got it! Cheers Marco
Hi John, so pleased you have brought out a new book. Sincerely hope that you will narrate an audio version soon. Looking forward to it. Nick.
Grandad always said carry a bit of string, pocket knife and a nail in your pockets. Looks like the big Of string might have been useful on your rudder.
Hello John,
I have followed your exploits with interest since newspaper days – am loving following your experiences but I don’t do Kindle !
I don’t happen to agree with carrying tons of chain especially at the end of the boat – but then I only sail coastally / cross Channel in my Anderson 22 ( 24 crossings to date but then my health put a spanner in ) have had larger cruisers but the A22 for 46 years, longest serving boat at my club in Chichester Harbour ) so speed dodging the weather is primary, have spent a few times at anchor in Studland Bay in F8-10—
In that place, sheltered from the SW’ly gales despite quite wild conditions – the strong Katabatic gusts from the hills were by far the main concern, with other boats dragging ( we set off in rescue, long story but all was fine ) I was OK with my – real, original – 7.5 kg Bruce anchor, 20′ or so of 1/4″ heavy chain, 30 m of 14mm nylon warp and a 7kg folding grapnel kedge let down the bower line in folded state as an ‘ angel ‘ to take the shock out of the waves – I know Angels aren’t fashionable any more but it worked for me.
The reason I carry a folding grapnel as kedge on holiday cruises – normally I just potter around the Solent – is apart from its’ primary role as angel, in unfolded pointy state might grab a toehold through weed onto rock, ie in emergency in a place I’d never contemplate anchoring usually !
BUT the folding grapnel relies on relatively weak hinge pins, so definitely if it held in an emergency just a case of getting one’s breath before the next plan, not an overnight stay if one could avoid it.
Hope you are well and shipshape and your accounts may be on here sometime soon – look after yourself,
Andy
The Rival 32 is a particularly good load carrier – particularly in the bow. By the way, if your health is interfering with your sailing, have a look at https://oldmansailing.com/good-health.